Both fights showed Spectre getting his world rocked without making a single dent in Michael, so using that as scaling evidence is a no in my book. Nor did he cause Michael to "overexert" himself. Primal/Unbound Spectre is not the same as Full Power Spectre.I did combine it into Jim Corrigan's key though, as Ant suggested. Spectre battling Anti-Monitor doesn't deserve its own key, since it was just Jim Corrigan Spectre with more magical energy than normal.It was bugging me a lot even before the thread I linked above. Not all hosts have the same level of feats, not by a longshot ( cough Crispus Allen cough) and not only that, each version has very different characterization. Spectre's profile should be divided into separate keys for each host.Since this recent thread didn't go anywhere I thought I'd expand on it and bring it up again. As listing all his abilities and scans would be far too long here, all of them are linked in his proposed profile above. Post-FP Trigon has never demonstrated a number of abilities his prior incarnation had, most notably Mid-Godly Regenerationn.Relevant scans for that are in the proposed profile above, as there is direct evidence much of it was an illusion and therefore falls under Illusion Creation. In case his and his sons' "fight" against the Teen Titans is brought up as an antifeat (spoilers: they lose with almost comical ease, even Trigon), I would remind any naysayers that the entire encounter was a farce purposefully manufactured by Trigon so Raven would become a trusted Titan, as the end of the arc revealed. Post-Flashpoint Trigon's scaling remains the same as it is now.A new profile will be made for his prior incarnation and is below. As such I propose altering his current profile to be a Post-Flashpoint one. Pre-Flashpoint Trigon was explicitly not from Hell. This isn't a case like Darkseid either, where he's a Sphere of the Gods-type being. Post-FP Trigon is completely different from his prior incarnation in terms of origin, life story, powers, and tier. For Post-Crisis Phantom Stranger, I used a combination of a respect thread and reading random issues since he has so many appearances. For Post-Flashpoint Phantom Stranger, I read literally every appearance.And for Full Power Logoz Spectre I didn't change anything in the first place. For Primal/Unbound Spectre I read the Morrison JLA issues, Day of Vengeance, and the Ostrander material. For Asmodel and Hal, I read Day of Judgment, some of his main run, and used a respect thread. For Jim Corrigan, I used a combination of reading the Ostrander run and using respect threads that I can link if desired. For Spectre, I read through every Crispus Allen issue.I have gone through literally every appearance of Trigon in the history of DC Comics, taken scans for every feat and ability, and created drafts for two new profiles.This site provides access to pretty much any comic you could want, almost always in super high quality. There is a certain site that I'm not sure is allowed to be named. I combined these three characters into one CRT because a lot of their scaling intertwines. This is the start of my attempt to modernize a lot of DC profiles that need work. His profile should not be mixed between the two. Trigon, for example, has a completely different origin, life story, power level, and ability set when you compare Pre- and Post-Flashpoint versions. Many profiles are also incorrectly mixing Pre- and Post-Flashpoint abilities and scaling despite the Pre- and Post-Flashpoint versions being completely different characters. Case in point: Trigon's profile has zero proof of Mid-Godly Regenerationn.
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